[UPHPU] SEO and Flash

[Brandon Stout]

cole at colejoplin.com wrote:
> Use Flash wisely. Flash has a purpose. In order to get any SEO, you 
> must follow the Google recommended processes for how they crawl SWFs. 
> I'm not a big fan of Flash-only sites, unless you care nothing for 
> SEO, then anything goes. If you need SEO, you can balance excitement 
> and SEO successfully. No kidding...
>
> ...I have to agree here. Flash has a place, not every place.

Thank you Cole, I was hoping you'd respond to this question since I know 
you would have some good stuff to say about Flash.  Flash definitely has 
a place.  I might use it less than some, but I'll use it when the need 
arises.  I appreciate your counterpoints for Flash.

> Um, no, this is old news. Flash Player 8 is already 98% penetration 
> and Player 9 is already at 90 and growing fast. Any idiot turning off 
> Javascript in today's AJAX-happy world, should not be allowed to use 
> the browser anymore. Yes, reallly.

Sometimes I need to use a text-based browser on a text-only FreeBSD web 
server to download software, patches, or for a quick look at a page 
without having to load my GUI based browser.  In that one case I see a 
need for a no JS interface.  Too few sites account for that need.  I 
don't think Lynx supports JS, but I could be wrong...

> Unless you are a jaded Linux guy (as I feel compelled to allow this 
> exception), if you don't have Flash, again, you should be banned from 
> the internet completely. You dweeb.

Or... perhaps... unless you are using Lynx from an OS without a GUI.

> I don't think you have a major SEO "problem" with this site either. 
> The Product and 7 Reasons pages are rich in text content. The nice 
> Flash at the top is great. The navigation is not a big issue as far as 
> pure SEO, because you have it in the footer. I'd take the time to do 
> the things Sheri Bigelow mentioned in her presentation this summmer, 
> and you should be fine.

Was this ever made available via mp3 or oog?  I missed this meeting, but 
was interested in it.  Is there a text-based outline or even a 
Flash-based slideshow...

> Use Flash. Use it wisely. The image produced on this site is pretty 
> good, actually. It would be a shame to lose it.
>
> -- Cole

Brandon Stout
http://mscis.org