[UPHPU] Convert a site to ajax
cole at colejoplin.com
cole at colejoplin.com
Tue Jul 24 09:10:34 MDT 2007
I love the frames/flash/ajax technologies, but only when they are
implemented to their strengths. I don't think navigation is one of them.
-- Cole
Quoting Orson Jones <orson.uphpu at bookstore.usu.edu>:
>> Hmmm.... I personally can't see much use for AJAX in navigation of the demo
>> site you provided us with. I rarely see the need for AJAX at all in
>> navigation.
>
> Right, I don't plan on using ajax for navigation, just the interactive
> problem solving part. (I think you noticed this below also.)
>
>> beandog (Steve Dibb) showed me a wonderful example of how he used sessions
>> to overcome those scary POST messages upon going "back". It really is
>> quite cool, and requires no AJAX.
>
> Interesting, I'd love to see this. The site does use sessions, but I
> don't know how to use them to overcome that problem. I suspect doing
> something with the cache control headers would help, but I don't know.
>
> Still, I'd like to be able to not have to hit back several times to get
> back to the menu though.
>
>> Holy cow. Really? AJAX has everything to do with Javascript. I'd
>> personally be scared to use it if I didn't know what it was doing on the
>> back-end.
>
> Well, I have done a little bit of ajax just playing around, and I did it
> all by hand with no libraries. So I understand how it works, I just want
> to use something with most of the bugs already worked out.
>
>> I believe that the whole idea behind AJAX is to allow asynchronous
>> communication between a back-end language (PHP/PERL/Python/etc...) and the
>> front-end through Javascript. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think it would
>> be at all useful to employ AJAX on a system that didn't need a
>> backend.....?
>
> Let me clarify, some of them looked like they would _only_ work with
> _their_ backend. I want to use my own backend with some js in front to
> help it a bit.
>
> Thanks for the input though. The site works just fine as it is. However
> I think there is room for improvement in this respect. I don't want it
> to break when javascript is disabled. I just want it to feel a little
> more slick and quicker when it is enabled.
>
> Orson
>
> PS. just a little bragging, check out the print preview. This is the
> main reason I like using css layouts. It's flexible.
>
>
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