[UPHPU] More CSS frustration

[John David Anderson]

On Jan 23, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Brandon Stout wrote:

> John David Anderson wrote:
>> My general feeling from the group and this list has been anti-CSS...
>>
>> -- John  
>
> Funny, my general feeling from the group has been strong CSS...
<snip>

Okay, so its mostly Mac and Joshua.

And maybe Joshua is just vying in because he likes to argue with me  
(and lose).

:o)

I just find it interesting that when I've argued for a "pure"  
implementation (whatever that really is), I seem to have received two  
main responses:

1. I can get by with what I have, and it works for me.

To this, I say: You have different goals and client needs than I  
have. Let's agree to disagree, because there really isn't any ground  
you can cover here if you have vastly different needs to supply for  
your clients and your own development strategy.

2. Every situation is different, and no implementation is pure.  
Resorting to hacks will happen.

To this I say: Well, yeah. But the "pure" implementation is my goal,  
and I'd like to get as close to that as I can. I'm not going to spend  
days trying to stay CSS-righteous, nor slit my wrists if I resort to  
the occasional hack (tables included). But I'm not going to say its a  
good idea, or justify the usage of the hack, or want to do it again,  
either. Any project has a hack-debt associated with it, and I want to  
keep that as low as possible in order to avoid problems down the  
line. That probably goes without saying, and I think Joshua might  
agree with this stance.

Of course, this drawn out discussion might just be the idealist in me  
not communicating with the pragmatists in the group. :)

-- John