[UPHPU] web-based project management software

[Matt Hildebrand]

I just went out and took a look at SimplyPM. It doesn't look like much
less of a web app than what we've been working on, and from just the
quick glance that I've had at it, the only thing that I disagree with is
their use of ActiveX.

I realized that your comments had nothing to do with MS directly, they
just happen to epotimize propritary technologies, so that's the example
I used (not to mention that they're what SimplyPM and OpenTCDB are
using, so it fit into the discussion)--but it definitely applies to all
propritary technologies.

As far as coding things to only work in one specific browser (ActiveX
requirements aside). We've done just that with OpenTCDB. Because of how
quickly we had to roll a usable version of the product out, my primary
browser of choice was what we designed for (it also happens to be the
primary browser of choice for 95% of our QA organization that will be
using the product). We had other things higher on our priority list than
cross-browser compatability. (Most of the problems are, of course, due
to CSS rendering issues. And, FYI, my primary browser of choice is
Firefox.) Our plans are to have full cross-browser support, but that
isn't going to happen until the 1.5 release of the product.


-----Original Message-----
From: uphpu-bounces at uphpu.org [mailto:uphpu-bounces at uphpu.org] On Behalf
Of Wade Preston Shearer
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:57 AM
To: UPHPU General Discussion
Subject: Re: [UPHPU] web-based project management software

> I do, however, feel that there is a place for proprietary  
> technologies like these to be used. If we want that to change, the  
> open source technologies will have
> to be able to compete better with them and provide the same level of
> development tools that the proprietary solutions provide.

Your example is a much more complex application. SimplyPM is not  
complex. It's a web application. It's HTML. It loads in a browser.  
How are the open source technologies that relate to web development  
lacking in any way compared to closed source web development  
technologies.

I stand by my statement that their development team are idiots for  
not being able to write HTML that runs in all the major browsers.

And, for the clarify, my comments had nothing to do with Microsoft.  
They were about  people that break the mold for no logical reason.  
Yes, MSIE has the market share, but it's just as easy to program it  
in standards compliant code so that it works in all browsers as it is  
to not, so why would you choose to not?