[UPHPU] notes from austin php users group

[John David Anderson]

On Dec 16, 2006, at 4:07 PM, jtaber wrote:

> It's clear that the popularity and usage of a framework with the  
> Rails  community is not transferring that well to the PHP community.

Depends on what circles you're talking about. I think Rails is a bad  
comparator, as Rails is just about the *only* thing people are doing  
with Ruby. Most firms I interact with at work have their own  
framework, or use a handful of frameworks as favorites.

Jobs are going for many PHP frameworks. Just as a real quick example:

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Acraigslist.org+cakephp
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Acraigslist.org+symfony
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Acraigslist.org+%27zend+framework 
%27

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Acraigslist.org+mvc+php

After working with Rails and CakePHP (and others), I'll never go  
back. Regardless of the language, there's help to be had by using a  
framework. No reason to re-invent wheels and charge your clients for  
it. Many people complain about the inflexibility of frameworks, and  
I'd argue that any framework worth its salt is extensible and easy to  
work in (and around).

-- John