[UPHPU] Freelance Opportunity Starting ASAP

[Mac Newbold]

Monday at 4:30pm, Robert Merrill said:

> I think I earned a gold star... and I can't necessarily complain about
> anything you're saying either.  While, you predicted that the perceived
> value to you is must less than the value a recruiter places on the same
> effort, you have to admit that I would be hard-pressed to run a business if
> I were receiving $100 payments once a month for 15 months. ;)

My example assumes that since it takes relatively little time to make a 
connection for someone, you have enough time that you can make many of 
them in one month. $100/month isn't much, but if you have 30 of them, 
that's $3K/month, or if you've been doing it for over a year, you could 
easily have a couple hundred of them I'd guess, which is $20K/month.

> (Especially
> if I were liable for that employee's insurance, taxes, unemployment, etc. as
> I usually am in contract situations.)

In a contract situation, if you're paying those expenses, then obviously 
that would need to either get passed on to the employer (with their 
consent of course), as a service to them, or deducted from the employees 
pay (with their consent of course) as a service to the employee, if they 
wanted that service.

I didn't know that there was an actual employee relationship formed 
between the recruiter and the contract employee in those situations... I 
had imagined it was an independent contractor (Form 1099) who was 
self-employed (Form 1040 Schedule C) rather than something with a W-2 from 
anyone. But I guess that doesn't work so well if the employee needs 
benefits rather than just the cash.

> I have never tried to explain to a client that I am better than their own
> personal network, and the network of their own employees.  In fact, I
> encourage it.  I have often said in negotiations with a client that "if I
> can't find you someone faster than your own recruiting efforts can, you
> should go with your own efforts, not mine."

Right, and that makes sense. As a recruiter, if you're interested in 
trying to find someone for my need, you're welcome to do so, as long as 
I'm not under any obligation (guilt over your time investment included) to 
use someone you bring to me. The only frustrating thing would be if you 
brought me someone that I would have found anyway, and then insisted that 
I have to go through you, and pay your fees, in order to use them. I 
generally just ask about the fees up front, and since generally they're 
way above what I'm willing to pay, I gently tell them "no thanks".

Thanks to everyone who's participated in this discussion, I've learned a 
lot and clarified a lot of my own thoughts about the issues concerned.

Thanks,
Mac

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