[UPHPU] Swift: a web browser for Windows

Wade Preston Shearer lists at wadeshearer.com
Thu Aug 10 11:23:31 MDT 2006


> I want to say I must by the only person on the list that uses  
> Windows as
> my primary platform.  Which bring me to my next question.  What  
> exactly
> is broken in IE besides the fact Microsoft makes it.

The company making the product is not the reason that it is junk. It  
is junk because of (1) bad design decisions by it's developers, (2)  
proprietary commands and syntax, (3) blatant disregard for industry  
standards, and (4) blatant apathy because of their monopoly for  
improving/updating it.

> I know they had problems with the 6.x series and even more in the  
> 5.x series but I am running 7 beta 3 right now and IMHO it is an  
> awesome browser.

How many of your clients are using MSIE 7? It is going to be a _long_  
time before it's users base is high enough that it's old issues are  
no longer issues.

I am curious… what makes you consider it awesome?

> I know I will probably get lynched because I like a Microsoft  
> product but I want to know what is broken?

You must not do web development if you have to ask what's broken in  
MSIE. I don't mean to be rude, but it is painfully obvious when  
attempting to render the most basic code.

Some of the most notorious (that I deal with on a daily basis):

.	box model problem

.	lack of translucency support

.	form elements rendered on the OS level

.	non-standard margins and spacing
	(examples include headers and paragraphs)

.	lack of support of many basic CSS features (such
	as auto margins and min/max heights)

.	lack of support for :hover on anything besides anchors

.	poor style inheritance

.	default margins on lists are all messed up

.	major security issues since it is not a stand alone
	application (tied into the OS)

.	distance and size calculation (fonts, absolute positioning,
	widths and heights) bugs and inconsistencies

.	lack of support for advanced CSS selectors


If every other main stream browser supports these features or handles  
these correctly (correct being defined as the accepted industry  
standard) and has done so for years and years and MSIE does not, then  
it is a piece of junk.


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