[UPHPU] Swift: a web browser for Windows

[Smith, Jeff]

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Duncan [mailto:jonathan at nacnud.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:38 AM
To: Smith, Jeff
Cc: jtaber; Richard K Miller; uphpu at uphpu.org
Subject: RE: [UPHPU] Swift: a web browser for Windows


On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Smith, Jeff wrote:

> yeah but 90% of developers I know (including yourself) are already 
> using a Mac.  And the next 9.9% of us are using Ubuntu.  What we 
> really need is a browser kit that runs on Mac, *nix that allows us to 
> test the broken W3C standards in IE.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> I want to say I must by the only person on the list that uses Windows 
> as my primary platform.  Which bring me to my next question.  What 
> exactly is broken in IE besides the fact Microsoft makes it.  I know 
> they had problems with the 6.x series and even more in the 5.x series 
> but I am running 7 beta 3 right now and IMHO it is an awesome browser.

> I know I will probably get lynched because I like a Microsoft product 
> but I want to know what is broken?
>
> I know of one site that will not load if you are using IE, the sad 
> thing is it is an open source advocacy site.  Kind of hard to convert 
> people when their first impression of your site an error message.  
> Anyway back to my question. Thanks and please don't flame me because I

> don't blindly follow the open source path.  That being said I am not 
> against open source, I am an equal opportunity geek.
>
> Jeff
>
>

GRAB YOUR PITCHFORKS AND TORCHES!!!

Just kidding.  I have seen IE7 used and I agree that it is a major
improvement over their previous versions.

The reason that IEv<7 are evil (aside from being made by Microsloth) is
that the browser is not standards compliant.  This causes many problems
including making creating web pages much more time consuming.  IE 7
appears to be much more compliant.

Jonathan

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Hmm do you have any examples.  That is what I am looking for.  It is my
understand that both IE and Firefox are not 100% compliant.    Then
again I guess the question is what is compliant?  HTML, XHTML, CSS 2 or
3.  Sorry, but the saying "It's not standards compliant" drives me
crazy.  I really like to know the how and the why.  How is IE 6 broken
and why did Microsoft decide to do it that way.