[UPHPU] Going Rate for PHP/MySQL Development

John David Anderson uphpu at mail.johndavidanderson.net
Thu Oct 28 14:55:00 MDT 2004

I've also found that if you approach the client in a certain manner 
they are more happy with the result. I've started asking for more 
lately, and I've found that (not only can I actually *get* more from 
people), but people are more happy with the results. I did a site for a 
charity once - I wanted to do it as a service, so I didn't expect much 
in return, but they were always asking for things and expecting more 
than I was ready to work on. I've found that charging more makes people 
value your time more.

I also found that using formal documents like project design docs, etc. 
help too. (I'd be interested to see what sort of contracts, etc. other 
people are using)


On Oct 28, 2004, at 2:05 PM, Mac Newbold wrote:

> Today at 10:12am, Dan Wilson said:
>> Using this formula, I should be charging $58... if I could get that 
>> out
>> of a contract job, I'd be a happy man! And would probably be able to
>> quit my full-time job and just do contract work.
> Speaking as person who _does_ contract work as a full time job, doing
> PHP/MySQL primarily, I can tell you that someone good, with the right
> clients, can get that, and even higher. $50-$75/hr isn't out of the
> question if you're good, which IMO means:
> a) high quality results
> b) relatively fast, so fewer hours charged
> Even when I'm billing hourly, I like to give clients at least a rough
> estimate of the total, because if they just compare my hourly to the 
> other
> guy, it looks outrageous. But even when we're charging $75/hr, our bids
> come in _lower_ than a lot of the competition, presumably because 
> they're
> slower and have to bill more hours.
> Of course, this assumes that you're pretty much solo, finding your own
> clients, paying your own overhead and benefits, etc. If you're on a 
> team
> of contractors, and someone else is paying the overhead or finding all 
> the
> clients, the rate would go down a little. (Still, for someone good, it
> should be at least $30/hr, and as high as $50 would be pretty 
> reasonable
> for the right person.)
> By the way, if anyone out there is Really Good, and looking for some
> contract work, based out of Salt Lake City, we (www.dmedia.ws) might 
> want
> to talk to you.  We're experiencing some serious growth and are looking
> into our options for trying to keep up.
> Thanks,
> Mac
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> mac at macnewbold.com	http://www.macnewbold.com/
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