[UPHPU] any asp converts?

John lists at strictlyrockymountain.com
Mon Nov 29 19:16:34 MST 2004

Hi folks, I'm going to add my 2 cents on this.  Basically ASP is just an
envelope (this may be too simplified) created by mircosoft which allows
you to use many different languages to accomplish your task.  For instance
if you didn't know you can use PHP in/on a Windows ISS box.  You can also
use C++, C#, Java, JScript, Javascript, J# and others.  Using ASP means
you are using the structure of their environment and not a specific
language.  ASP is not a language.  I hope my 2 cents are worth something
to someone, but if not, no big deal.


>> Jon,
>>     Replying off-list.  What I'm wondering is if you can give me an
>> objective answer on the question of whether you think ASP or PHP is a
>> 'better' language.  I guess the question itself is subjective, but...
>> well, you're the first person I've "met" who knows them both, and I've
>> been wondering about this for as long as I've been using PHP.  Is ASP
>> really that bad, is PHP really all that superior, etc. etc.  If you
>> get a lot of these you might just want to write a single reply to the
>> list, I'm sure other people would be interested in hearing your
>> opinion as well.
>> Thanks for your time,
>> Dan
> Dan,
> Glad you asked. I'm sending this back to the list so that others can add
> their insights.
> I'll echo what many have said previously. The truth is, you can write
> secure, efficient, modular code in PHP. You can also do it in ASP.
> Conversly, you can write horrible, buggy code full of security flaws in
> either language. Almost anything that can be done in one can be
> implemented in the other.
> With that out of the way, there are several reasons why I prefer PHP to
> ASP:
> 1. Syntax. Coming from a Java/C++ background, PHP is much more intuitive
> to me as programmer. Though I originally started out programming in
> Basic as a child, I'd rather not be reminded of it. While many cool
> features have been added to VBScript, Basic still shines through and
> it's ugly.
> 2. Simplicity. Generally I have found that I can accomplish things in
> fewer lines of code in PHP. I've done enough ASP to be extremely
> efficient in it, however I still find this to be the case on a fairly
> regular basis.
> 3. Open source. And not just because open source is cool. PHP is great
> because of its large contributer base; many things you would have to
> program in ASP already exist in PHP in the form of a function, class or
> module.
> 4. Maturity. This hearkens back to the syntax, but PHP is simply a more
> mature language. Take classes for example. ASP does not support
> inheritance, and its classes are a joke. Or how about functions -- in
> PHP you can overload methods using argument lists, but not in ASP.
> There are many other reasons people have for preferring PHP (benchmarks,
> portability, etc.), but for me the most important ones are those 4.
> Jon
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