[UPHPU] Java and Frameworks (was: MVC)
fungus at aros.net
Tue Nov 16 11:38:17 MST 2004
On Nov 16, 2004, at 7:58 AM, Grant Shipley wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 20:49:04 -0700, Daniel C. <dcrookston at gmail.com>
>> Java is a language for mediocre programmers working in large teams.
> Ah, that explains why java programmers get paid more than us
> non-mediocre programmers who use php.
I really enjoy reading these programmers skill vs. language vs. na na
na arguments, but what I would like to hear more about is help for
I am a sysadmin, which often means mediocre programmer, at least it
does in this case. Programming is not priority one with me, but I
would like to improve my programming skills. What resources can I look
into to improve my programming skills? I am talking general stuff,
like design patterns, MVC, etc. I already got the language specific
stuff down pat. Any books, articles, online journals, etc i should
Maybe someone would like to present at a future meeting or at least a
short article about the most annoying traits of mediocre programmers,
how it should be done, and where to find more information.
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