[UPHPU] Java and Frameworks (was: MVC)

John David Anderson uphpu at mail.johndavidanderson.net
Thu Nov 11 09:02:37 MST 2004

<quote who='Ray'>
> After developing with
> MVC and frameworks in java, php does not follow the same paradigm. When
> implementing these types in php there is an overkill to it all.

It seems like the general tenor of the technology world is that Java is 
better (especially for the 'enterprise') because it requires this rigid 
framework. I haven't been able to work with Java much on the web - but 
I've never been able to figure out a straight answer as to whether or 
not that is true.

After reading Adv. PHP Programming, George makes me think that there 
aren't any problems with large-scale PHP applications, and from my 
short frolic in the land of JSP, it really just seems like PHP to me. I 
haven't done any servlet stuff, but it seems like you could accomplish 
the same thing in PHP, essentially.

 From all I can tell (and I'm no big PHP or Java guru), but PHP is just 
as good as Java. I personally like PHP because its more flexible and 
way less verbose. System.out.println.righthere.astext.please("hello") 
vs. echo "Hi." :o)


I know the list might be a little biased towards PHP, but if Java is 
really a better way to go for large scale stuff, I'd like to get to 
know it as well.


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